Automation talks
The reality of application delivery in 2026
Ep. 07 with Jens Miltenberger (Ceterion)
About the episode
Cloud Meets Hybrid | Automation Talks, hosted by Mario Istuk, is a podcast by XOAP, exploring IT infrastructure and automation topics.
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Application delivery. One of the most underestimated disciplines in IT.
In this episode, our guest is Jens Miltenberger, Consulting Services Director at Ceterion. We cover the evolution of packaging formats, the tool landscape from SCCM to Intune, hybrid environments and why application delivery is ultimately a process and organizational challenge, not a tooling one.
Please note: This episode is available in German only. For an English translation, watch it on YouTube with the subtitles on.
Meet our host
XOAP
Mario Istuk
Mario Istuk, a co-founder of XOAP, oversees sales, marketing and corporate partnerships. With over 15 years of experience in IT infrastructure and automation, he helps organizations optimize complex hybrid IT environments. Mario hosts XOAP’s Automation Talks podcast, leads online events and speaks at conferences across Europe.
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